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003 Traitor Joes

Still Talkin'

September 17, 2026 · 1 hr 12 min

Robb has spent years believing it was spelled “Traitor Joe’s.” Now the truth—and the groceries—can finally come out.In Episode 003, a parking-lot handoff of collectible Elvis Matchbox cars leads Robb and Josh into the strange world of specialty groceries, suspicious shoppers, vegan…

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Robb has spent years believing it was spelled “Traitor Joe’s.” Now the truth—and the groceries—can finally come out.

In Episode 003, a parking-lot handoff of collectible Elvis Matchbox cars leads Robb and Josh into the strange world of specialty groceries, suspicious shoppers, vegan marshmallows, chicken pot pies, frozen-food nostalgia, and the realization that the store may not have been betraying anyone after all.

Then Josh delivers the follow-up nobody expected: his completely scientific list of the smartest animals he has personally encountered. Chameleons, bees, birds, dogs, alligators, sharks, and several questionable definitions of “intelligence” enter the debate.

Plus, the guys preview the upcoming final TMOS cruise, compare restorative “artist weekends,” and prepare for Robb’s return to the high-school football press box—complete with stadium sound effects, deeply outdated music cues, imaginary attendance figures, and advice from the chat.

It’s groceries, collectibles, animal rankings, cruise talk, and enough detours to make the title feel almost responsible. It’s *Still Talkin’ 003: Traitor Joe’s*.

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Robb and Josh investigate “Traitor Joe’s,” reveal an Elvis Matchbox treasure, rank the smartest animals, preview the final TMOS cruise, and build the least current high-school football playlist imaginable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Redacted, and my mom is founder 157, and you're listening to Still Talkin' with Rob and Josh.

[SPEAKER_03]: Rob's B-Wack.

[SPEAKER_03]: Josh, suckers!

[SPEAKER_03]: Still Talkin'!

[SPEAKER_01]: I do love our countdown, Josh.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's great, but I feel I should mention that I do not talk into an SM7.

[SPEAKER_01]: You do, but I don't.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's I do.

[SPEAKER_01]: People that are, you know, mental about stuff like that should know.

[SPEAKER_01]: And this ship hasn't sailed yet.

[SPEAKER_01]: no, but it's preparing it's definitely prepared.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you've ever watched a down under the the yacht reality show, but they're they're pulling up the chains they're getting ready.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I like to think it's more of when you see the big catering truck show up.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're loaded in the food and for the cruise.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, this catering trick doesn't have, doesn't have Donald Trump in it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is he escaping something in the catering truck or is it actually food?

[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, in Mike's case, it's donuts and ice cream.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?

[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?

[SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to prompt too.

[SPEAKER_02]: In your case, it's a Lido salad dressing.

[SPEAKER_02]: I lived on that stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to you.

[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, this morning, I really went grocery shopping this morning.

[SPEAKER_02]: Did you?

[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the items I grabbed was pizza dough.

[SPEAKER_02]: so that I can make Lito's pizza, but the sauce you gave me.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Fanta, I'm curious how it goes, because Lito's sauce, I mean, everything they make, and Lito's is a regional pizza place, I guess, was started around University of Maryland and the food.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, something like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a DC regional place, square pizza, they don't cut corners.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it is extra pizza, but their sauce is out of this world.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's because they use about eight cups of sugar in it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what the reason.

[SPEAKER_02]: It might be, it tastes like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right, are you ready to start the show?

[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, that's all right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everybody to still talking.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Rob Spiewag and I'm just Roka.

[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a Thursday episode, the soft launch of the show that will ultimately be a part of your day as the Michael Maris Show is currently a part of your day.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we thank you.

[SPEAKER_01]: And let us start with sincere thanks because I feel that last Thursday, we both felt that after the initial surge of people becoming founders,

[SPEAKER_01]: It would slow down because we way exceeded what we had even hoped for and I don't want to diminish it but we hit a really good number last week and I mean enough that we were, I was so excited I even told my wife and I hate giving her good news because then she'll say well what's so what, how does this affect me?

[SPEAKER_02]: Right right, but what it had the way it affects is it makes us even more believe that you guys are supporting us and this is going to work out.

[SPEAKER_01]: We love it and again, I think Josh will agree the best thing is when we see names we don't know because these are people that are like background listeners or you know they used to say that like five or four percent of people that listen to the radio ever called in.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I believe this is our 96%.

[SPEAKER_01]: These are the people that don't live in the chat room or live on social media, they just listen to the show.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the bread and butter.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we thank you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Also, thank you to Matthew or Matt Henshaw, who kicked us 10 bucks today.

[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Matt.

[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate that.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's nice.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I believe it was Saturday or Sunday that there were no new founders that day.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it was the first time that had happened.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I messaged Rob and said, I guess it's over.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a drive.

[SPEAKER_02]: But then it picked up like the next day was like three founders.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we're, we're at a good number now.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is Redacted, and my mom is founder 157, and you're listening to Still Talkin' with Rob and Josh. [SPEAKER_03]: Rob's B-Wack. [SPEAKER_03]: Josh, suckers! [SPEAKER_03]: Still Talkin'! [SPEAKER_01]: I do love our countdown, Josh. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's great, but I feel I should mention that I do not talk into an SM7. [SPEAKER_01]: You do, but I don't. [SPEAKER_02]: That's I do. [SPEAKER_01]: People that are, you know, mental about stuff like that should know. [SPEAKER_01]: And this ship hasn't sailed yet. [SPEAKER_01]: no, but it's preparing it's definitely prepared. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you've ever watched a down under the the yacht reality show, but they're they're pulling up the chains they're getting ready. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I like to think it's more of when you see the big catering truck show up. [SPEAKER_02]: They're loaded in the food and for the cruise. [SPEAKER_01]: No, this catering trick doesn't have, doesn't have Donald Trump in it. [SPEAKER_01]: Is he escaping something in the catering truck or is it actually food? [SPEAKER_02]: Come on, in Mike's case, it's donuts and ice cream. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what? [SPEAKER_01]: You know what? [SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to prompt too. [SPEAKER_02]: In your case, it's a Lido salad dressing. [SPEAKER_02]: I lived on that stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to you. [SPEAKER_02]: In fact, this morning, I really went grocery shopping this morning. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you? [SPEAKER_02]: And one of the items I grabbed was pizza dough. [SPEAKER_02]: so that I can make Lito's pizza, but the sauce you gave me. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Fanta, I'm curious how it goes, because Lito's sauce, I mean, everything they make, and Lito's is a regional pizza place, I guess, was started around University of Maryland and the food. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's a DC regional place, square pizza, they don't cut corners. [SPEAKER_01]: And it is extra pizza, but their sauce is out of this world. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's because they use about eight cups of sugar in it. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what the reason. [SPEAKER_02]: It might be, it tastes like that. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, are you ready to start the show? [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, that's all right. [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everybody to still talking. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Rob Spiewag and I'm just Roka. [SPEAKER_01]: And this is a Thursday episode, the soft launch of the show that will ultimately be a part of your day as the Michael Maris Show is currently a part of your day. [SPEAKER_01]: So we thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: And let us start with sincere thanks because I feel that last Thursday, we both felt that after the initial surge of people becoming founders, [SPEAKER_01]: It would slow down because we way exceeded what we had even hoped for and I don't want to diminish it but we hit a really good number last week and I mean enough that we were, I was so excited I even told my wife and I hate giving her good news because then she'll say well what's so what, how does this affect me? [SPEAKER_02]: Right right, but what it had the way it affects is it makes us even more believe that you guys are supporting us and this is going to work out. [SPEAKER_01]: We love it and again, I think Josh will agree the best thing is when we see names we don't know because these are people that are like background listeners or you know they used to say that like five or four percent of people that listen to the radio ever called in. [SPEAKER_01]: And so, I believe this is our 96%. [SPEAKER_01]: These are the people that don't live in the chat room or live on social media, they just listen to the show. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the bread and butter. [SPEAKER_01]: And we thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: Also, thank you to Matthew or Matt Henshaw, who kicked us 10 bucks today. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Matt. [SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate that. [SPEAKER_01]: That's nice. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I believe it was Saturday or Sunday that there were no new founders that day. [SPEAKER_02]: And it was the first time that had happened. [SPEAKER_02]: So I messaged Rob and said, I guess it's over. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a drive. [SPEAKER_02]: But then it picked up like the next day was like three founders. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're, we're at a good number now. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, if you're hearing this and you're not a founder, please consider it because it'll give you a year of all of our programming, plus a T-shirt, plus a mug, and not a mug. [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, [SPEAKER_01]: like the like we let off the show with a founder I don't remember what number once it was one one fifty seven and I will reveal this much it is a it is a lady founder but her name has been redacted so she doesn't want us to say her name but we know her number one five seven which is nice and if you go on over and click on the hall of fame for still can you can probably find her name [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, as a matter of how you can find her first name. [SPEAKER_02]: Because because when it started with name redacted, I thought that was the child's name that is redacted. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I mean, it's a nowhere in era of where in an era of hip names. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even you named your daughter Camden, but redacted is not a good name. [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, but that was the kid was redact in her own name. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: No, this is redacted. [SPEAKER_02]: My mom is a founder of 157. [SPEAKER_01]: So now we've done the hit on, um, we've hit the, if you got to be a founder, that's really important podcast.com. [SPEAKER_01]: But also, uh, we need to mention the fact that we did see a couple of it. [SPEAKER_01]: And why did it, like, make me [SPEAKER_01]: literally smile ear to ear just to see Jimmy serritos name pop up because because you cannot see his name without hearing his voice that's for hey hey exactly you can't do it and you know and it's funny and here's why Jimmy is great [SPEAKER_01]: Jimmy would have to just wink at me and we would give him a free lifetime subscription. [SPEAKER_01]: God knows he's treated all of us well for dozens of years. [SPEAKER_01]: You have not yet known him long enough to really, really sponge off him yet, Josh. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you will. [SPEAKER_02]: But Jimmy has been great. [SPEAKER_02]: Jimmy stepped up on the cruise. [SPEAKER_02]: Jimmy stepped up in Vegas. [SPEAKER_01]: So Jimmy stepped up for the, they can tuck, they can tuck he Derby. [SPEAKER_01]: So he Jimmy is a giver and to have a friend like Jimmy is a true absolute, it's a privilege. [SPEAKER_01]: So thank you Jimmy and thank you to all the founders for supporting the show. [SPEAKER_01]: While we're talking listeners, and I know we have plenty of stuff to get to today, including you really didn't make a list of smart animals and insects. [SPEAKER_02]: I did. [SPEAKER_02]: I believe I promised you last week that I would make it. [SPEAKER_02]: And I did. [SPEAKER_02]: I wrote down the, I wrote down the ten smartest animals that I encounter. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, on a regular basis, I suppose. [SPEAKER_01]: I know that my dog's affection, my dog's affection, not in the top ten, guaranteed. [SPEAKER_01]: But I had, not a panic he called from Josh, but you did lay down the law in me this morning because I was running late and you had already moved the show to 11 and you said, listen, we got to start [SPEAKER_01]: at 11. [SPEAKER_01]: I said, I know. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing the best I can. [SPEAKER_01]: I had to go to the dock. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm still dealing. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to grow anyone out, but I'm still dealing in a small way with that infection that made me sleep through a show this this year. [SPEAKER_01]: Remember, I had to Marsha. [SPEAKER_01]: And so there's still, there's still a few things I have to deal with that. [SPEAKER_01]: And I have to see this doctor every two and a half weeks or so to make sure everything is okay. [SPEAKER_01]: That went longer than it should have. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, then I got a call from my daughter, Julia, who's flying home today from Atlanta and I've got to pick her up at the airport tonight. [SPEAKER_01]: That got me late. [SPEAKER_01]: And then I had a range to meet up with a listener and a salute. [SPEAKER_01]: A still talk in salute and he's already a listener. [SPEAKER_01]: He's a good guy. [SPEAKER_01]: Bobby Bullock is his name. [SPEAKER_01]: And he texted me or messaged me a couple months ago and he showed a picture of an item he found in like a thrift store. [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, hey, this is, you know, 23 bucks. [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, buy it. [SPEAKER_01]: And because I always tell Pete, I didn't think it was buying it for me. [SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was asking me for the value of value. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Now. [SPEAKER_01]: I know that you collect baseball stuff, and I collect lots of things, but I have things I focus on. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Elvis, you get your vinyl. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious. [SPEAKER_01]: Did you ever, as a youth or even as a grown-up, collect matchbox cards? [SPEAKER_02]: I did as a kid. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I have any currently as an adult. [SPEAKER_01]: I think I still have my box, my carrying box of matchbox cars and a box somewhere. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was, you know, even as a kid, I was, I was a snob. [SPEAKER_01]: I said, hot wheels, not so much, I like, I like matchbox. [SPEAKER_01]: And so, but if we were to get it out, I'm sure you would see some classic 1970s matchbox cars that still have dirt on them from playing in the yard. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I wasn't sure. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the baseball cards. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had a lot of baseball cards. [SPEAKER_02]: Some of them ended up in the bike spokes. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you do? [SPEAKER_02]: Did you ever flip cards with your friends? [SPEAKER_02]: did not flip cards. [SPEAKER_02]: I love flip cards. [SPEAKER_02]: We had maybe we did flip cards. [SPEAKER_02]: We did have like a penny game with cards and somehow they were flipped, so maybe so. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but that's true. [SPEAKER_01]: Pitching pennies is a different. [SPEAKER_01]: That's a different one. [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, we had some game where they were combined with the cards. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we used to do, um, I had a long bus ride because I [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: And to past time, we would flip cards. [SPEAKER_01]: And if it was an odd number of people with baseball cards, you would flip it and the one that was the odd man out. [SPEAKER_01]: Like if there was two heads and then a statistic side, the person who flipped the statistic side would win all three cards because they were the one that was different. [SPEAKER_01]: If it was a two-man flipping game, you had to match, which is flip one card, and if it landed heads, it would be your job to flip your card and make it come up heads to win, and if you didn't match, you lost. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's how we... No, I've never done that. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any baseball cards you would be consider flipping now, any flip-in baseball card? [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, nice flip-in baseball cards. [SPEAKER_02]: There's a box in the garage. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're worth anything, so we can flip them all you w